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Suggested Distro for Easiest install?

User clay.michaels
Date 6/17/2008 9:46 pm
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clay.michaels

Hello everyone,

I am running into some problems with the Ubuntu server install instructions, and the forums and wiki don't seem to point in the same direction.

I don't have anything else on the box at this point and don't mind starting from scratch. What I want to know is: 

Which specific distro would give me a guaranteed-working easy-as-pie install?

Clay Michaels

P.S. It always frustrates me how much simpler it is to install in Windows, but I am sure there is a "good reason" it is always so complicated in POSIX systems. Not suggesting anything, just venting. *sigh*

--- (Edited on 6/17/2008 9:46 pm [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---



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preaction

I would say that the RHEL / CentOS WRE is probably the most-tested, since it is what Plain Black uses.

That being said, I still prefer Debian for ease-of-use of the operating system itself.

Are you using the WRE? If not, that would probably be a good idea.

Otherwise, perhaps it might be best if you ask a more direct question about the install. Then we could try to provide a solution and figure out what went wrong.

When in doubt, follow the docs/install.txt.

--- (Edited on 6/17/2008 10:40 pm [GMT-0500] by preaction) ---



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bernd

Hi Clay,

I am using Ubuntu Dapper and it works perfectly. However, I decided to do it the easy way and use WRE. Maybe I can help?

 

Bernd

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--- (Edited on 18.06.2008 07:48 [GMT+0200] by bernd) ---



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clay.michaels

Great! It sounds like I may not need to abandon ubuntu! I do so love apt-get...

I am not sure where I went wrong, but this is what I can tell you:

I followed the from-source instructions because the wiki mentioned difficulty in installing the binary. 

Because Ubuntu does not by default enable a root user, I have been sudo'ing everything as requitred. (Hope that is OK)

I typed these commands in as written (except for adding sudo here and there)

tar -zxvf webgui-x.x.x.tar.gz 
mv WebGUI /data/
cd /data/WebGUI/etc

But I did not have a /WebGUI/ at all after I moved it. My /data/ was in the root directory, and there was no /WebGUI/ inside it.

Naturally this killed the next few commands.


You two have suggested the WRE anyway. I will try it, and post my results.


As an aside, I am using Opera 9.5 and I cannot use the text box on the reply or post pages.

When I hit enter, it inserts a line Before the cursor. There is no context-sensitive "paste" either, though ctrl-v works fine. Makes it very annoying to type.

Is anyone else having this problem, and will I have the same problem on my WebGUI pages?

Thanks for the help so far, I am sure I will require more.

Clay michael

--- (Edited on 6/18/2008 7:33 am [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---

--- (Edited on 6/18/2008 8:27 am [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---



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bartjol

Is it really a line, or just some space, a normal enter is a start of a new paragraph (for css purposes), try shift-enter

you can also configure that an enter is a <br /> tag, you can do this by editing the rich editing (in asset manager root->import node->Rich editor->choose edit for your rich editor

--- (Edited on 6/18/2008 4:11 pm [GMT+0200] by bartjol) ---



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clay.michaels

This is the third sentence I have typed.

I pressed "enter" at the end of the first line I typed, and it created a newline ABOVE what I had already typed, and placed the cursor there.

It looks like what we used to call a "carriage return" aka "enter".

--- (Edited on 6/18/2008 9:23 pm [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---



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clay.michaels

Ok, I downloaded the 7.04 version of the WRE. (Kind of annoying that there are no instructions on how to do that on a server (CLI) system.

 

I then followed these instructions from the wiki:

 

INSTALLING

1. Unpack the archive.

        mkdir /data
        cd /data
        tar xvfz /path/to/wre-x.x.x-osname.tar.gz

Ifnecessary, you can physically locate the directory in which you unpacksomewhere else (Baylink puts his in /appl/wre, since /appl is the "bigfilesystem on another drive" on his machines for hysterical raisins),and symlink it; this appears to work just fine, though no guaranteesare expressed or implied:

        mkdir /appl/wre
        cd /appl/wre
        tar xvfz $TARBALL
        cd /
        ln -s /appl/wre data

and got first

clay@michaelsbox:/data$ sudo mkdir /appl/wre
mkdir: cannot create directory `/appl/wre': No such file or directory

--It would be nice if the very first instruction actualy worked...

 

I had to mkdir /data/  and then /data/wre

 

Anyway, Next came

clay@michaelsbox:/appl/wre$ tar xvfz $TARBALL
tar: Old option `f' requires an argument.
Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information.

Seriously, do any of the instructions work, or am I missing something really basic?

 

Clay

--- (Edited on 6/18/2008 10:15 pm [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---



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You are missing something very basic...

mkdir /appl/wre will not work if /appl doesn't exist. Hence why "mkdir" has the -p switch.

Tar's f switch requires an argument, exactly as the error message says. Switch's arguments come right after the switch, so you'd need to do exactly: tar zxf filename

Here are some revised first few steps:

  1. sudo -i # Become one with the superuser
  2. mkdir /data # We don't need the WRE directory, that's in the tarball
  3. tar zxf path/to/wre.tar.gz -C /data # will create the WRE directory underneath /data

Now you can read docs/install.txt to see how to continue. In particular, pay attention to the docs explaining how to create the "webgui" user. Also note any caveats on your particular platform. There should be instructions on how to make the init.d scripts so that the WRE will start and stop with your system.

After you create the "webgui" user...

  1. . /data/wre/sbin/setenvironment.pl # The space between the first . and the first / is VERY IMPORTANT
  2. ./wreconsole.pl # No space between the first dot and the first slash
Now, it should tell you to open a web browser to a certain address. Do so and follow the instructions and you'll have a working WRE.

--- (Edited on 6/19/2008 10:58 am [GMT-0500] by preaction) ---



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clay.michaels

Also, I have tried the other browsers (FF2,FF3,IE) and not had any trouble with these text boxes. I wonder what the problem is.

I will try it and let you know how it goes.

Sounds easy enough...

--- (Edited on 6/19/2008 1:01 pm [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---



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clay.michaels

I do not have a "setenvironment.pl"

 

Instead, I have "setenvironment.sh"

root@michaelsbox:/data/wre/sbin# ls
addsite.pl  democleanup.pl  services           wreconsole.pl  wreupgrade.pl
backup.pl   logrotate.pl    setenvironment.sh  wremonitor.pl
cpan.sh     removesite.pl   webguiupdate.pl    wreservice.pl

Suggestions?

 

Clay Michael

--- (Edited on 6/19/2008 7:21 pm [GMT-0500] by clay.michaels) ---



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